We are the villains Eve deserves, and the ones it needs, for we did not come to ruin the game, but your game. You wanted a war for Nullsec, and now you have one. No matter who loses, we all win in the end.

You need us so you can have someone to point to and say "that's the bad guy." These pretzels are makin me thirsty.

The funny part of this is that those people include highsec players who would be laughing about goons getting destroyed. But if they go get booted out of sov space, with citadels rolling out, there's every chance it might work out worse for many highseccers.

Interesting news from High Sec.

They have to run T1 fit cats as they are all broke,. Most of the line members spend their isk gambling....even they are supporting the end of the imperium , even if it is through the back door and without knowing

I'm not complaining about a war. Nullsec has been waiting way too long for this. It's mostly people from the "Good Guys" side that spin this whole thing to be about The Mittani something something Book Kickstarter something something RMT.

Be that as it may, though, propaganda is just as much a part of this as is random violence.

You're late to the naming party. Pretty sure it's been dubbed the Easter War already.

Dang CFC undocks in something other than Sword Fleet for first time in a week and lose 40B in X-7 to Super Bait.

They found big priests/sorcerers?

Oooohhh you mean cojones.

Yes.

IWI stated that it is now paying for total war against the Goons, courtesy of Mittens trying to get an angle on IWI out of game.

You can read the article here.

Case in point: https://twitter.com/TheMittani/status/720287584144887812

I was meh when told I'd be leaving my ratting space to go invade the north. Now every night at work I can't wait to get home to shoot at space bees lol.

Ridiculous in what what? Yes, IWI found a way to gain isk from players using a third party application. That is undeniable. You can't claim that the IWI site is not a third party application nor can you deny that without that application he'd not have been able to get all of the isk. If he were sitting around in game saying "if you give me isk I'll pay to kill the goons" there's absolutely no way he'd make trillions, and you know that full well.

I love how you're calling me ridiculous then you're going off to deny basic facts about how he makes his isk. Further you're then going down the "the tears" route. I'm not whining or crying about the breaches of the EULA, I'm calmly, rationally and logically pointing out the very real breaches of the EULA that exists and questioning why CCP chooses to ignore it.

So, using the give isk option is normal gameplay.

I'm sure somebody will write a nice thesis about it, but it may very turn out that those fighting for Freedom in the Pixel World care because they feel oppressed in the real one. Despite the fact it hasn't played out in-game yet, we already know what would happen if we don't stand up to civilisation - unified carebear masses under the umbrella of a "commonwealth". Some may just long the Far West had never ended, and are unwilling to repeat the mistakes of old. In the pixel world, that is.

When all things you see or do in game involve real people, it seems quite normal to pierce the veil between worlds. On one hand this is a truly amazing feat by CCP. It's also a long-winded way of say "people will be a55holes in any world."

It's true because it's what have been evidenced to happen and things have only got more in favour on MBC since then You can't honestly suggest that the Imperium stands even a remote chance in all out combat in this war. Then even if they manage to break even, they are paying out of a finite wallet with diminishing sources of income while your pockets are infinite and untouchable. The common sense approach is to let you dudes do what you're doing then look at rebuilding when they're in a less precarious position.

Well yeah, everyone takes out cheap throwaway ships to sling on a node. I'd pretty much hit orbit then go play PS4. That you undoubtedly get SRP for it makes it even less of an issue.

No they wouldn't, the moment an Imperium fleet shows up to do anything about it, everyone would dogpile into the system and obliterate them. This is what has happened every time they've put up a defense fleet this war, which is why I don't understand why you're so shocked and appalled that they've stopped doing that.

Ed: At the end of the day you've done well, you guys have set up a war you are sure to win and should be justifiably proud. But don't be surprised if the enemy chooses not to willingly feed you kills.

On topic: when exactly does the enemy stop being the enemy?

Example. Guys or corps who recently dropped out of The Imperium, applying to Your alliance. We don't want them to stop playing, obviously; but we also don't want fair weather friends, F1 monkeys or carebears. We can take some newbros under our wings but at this point, there's a massive influx of non-PvP crowd scattering to the four winds.

I'd like to hear some perspectives on how the "refugees" are dealt with. Where do they go? Who takes them in? Are they looking to learn to PvP, or are they looking for green pastures to let the Mackinaws graze?

Luckily I'm not in a leadership position; because personally, ex-wartarget or affiliated is still wartarget in my book. Will remain so until things quiet down. It probably takes a better person than me to harbour those who would burn the universe but then suddenly had second thoughts about it - at gunpoint.

Then again I never said I was a nice person.

What's your take on it, gentlemen?